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The spider is an outstanding deity in North American Indian mythology, it is connected to wind/ whirlwind and rain (-water floods). "''Maheo appointed Thunder and Whirlwind to be the special guardians of the Sacred Arrow Bundle. They are the protectors of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyenne Cheyennes] and their sacred ways. The people believe that if enemies ever attempt to destroy Mahuts, the Arrows, Thunder and Whirlwind would prevent them from doing it.''" ([[The birth of Venus out of Orion - Literature|Powell 1969 Vol 2:438]]) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyenne Cheyenne] are not afraid of thunderstorms and tornadoes, for the ''Blue Sky Maker'' has the ability to communicate with these powers. He asks them to go by or split. In their dreams, relatives of [http://books.google.de/books?id=y8pPB3sCmMEC&printsec=frontcover&hl=de&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Edward Red Hat], who has been the ''Blue Sky Maker'' for more than 30 years, before he was selected ''Arrow Keeper'', saw him going along with a tornado / whirlwind, spinning his black handkerchief in a twirling motion. Black, as well as red and blue, are the colours of the Tsistsistas ''Arrow Keepers'' ([[The birth of Venus out of Orion - Literature|Schukies 1993: 29-34, 188-189]]).<br />
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The spider on the shell gorget of the Southern Death Cult of the cultures in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_River Mississippi Valley] and the Southeast is marked by an isosceles '''Venus'''-cross, which is encircled by three orbit-lines ([[The birth of Venus out of Orion - Literature|Cooper 1978/1984; Martin, Quimby, Collier 1947: 361365]]). '''(Fig. 43)'''<br />
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[[Bild:Nazca Lines, Spider II.jpg|thumb|'''Fig. O''' The ''Great Spider'' - monumental geoglyph in the Nazca Desert, southern Peru, shows that the spider-motif can be found in ancient South American mythology, too.]] <br />
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The spider has eight legs and its head resembles the heart. The heart is mistakenly often considered as a symbol of more recent Christian-European tradition; the heart of Jesus. But the heart is an ancient symbol, which was already known in prehistoric Japan or Egypt. A heart forInI tit lithg rail old anthropomorph statue from the neolitic [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C5%8Dmon_period Jōmon culture], which is dated to 2000 BC to the year 0. Two hearts decorate the [[Der Ursprung des Großen Sphinx und die Atlantisforschung|Sphinx of Giseh]] on a relief, which shows [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thutmosis_IV Thutmose IV] (-900). ([[The birth of Venus out of Orion - Literature|Droemer/Knaur 1963: 80-85; Rix 1983:13)]]. 0n a bronze heart with Greek inscriptions, the Egyptian [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horus Horus] / '''Venus''', on a crocodile and on a lotus, is portrayed. A stone formed like a heart, with two holes in the middle, was dug up from ancient Germanic times. Natural stones with holes in the middle were considefed as helpful amulets against lightning in later Germany. ([[The birth of Venus out of Orion - Literature|Hansmann 1966:137,180,181]]) The heart can be considered another symbol of Planet '''Venus'''. Its quite outstanding that the American spider is encircled with four lines, on the second orbit, counted from the inner ring towards the center, the two balls reappear, which were already seen on the chest of the ''Lightning God'' (cp. [http://atlantisforschung.de/images/Schukies-Venus-34.jpg Fig. 34]).<br />
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These two balls, with "eye brows" above, are another [[Geheimnisvolle Maya - woher stammte ihr erstaunliches Wissen?|Mayan]] glyph for '''Venus''' ([[The birth of Venus out of Orion - Literature|Closs:147]]) There is a long line of pictorial evidence that these two balls turn into the endless number of "two sun"-symbols, or "two eyes"-symbols which are found all over the world. These two suns transform into [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism anthropomorphic] figures, like the ''Lightning Brothers'' from [[Australien aus alternativ-historischer Sicht|Australia]]. ([[The birth of Venus out of Orion - Literature|Jelinek 1976: 520, Abb. 845]]). Of these ''Lightning Twins'' one is bigger than the other, which perhaps can be interpreted the following way: The bigger brother is the oldest ''Lightning Brother'', or ''War Twin'', and the smaller one is the younger ''Lightning Brother'', or ''War Twin''. In Tsistsistas history Motseyoef / '''Venus''' becomes younger in springtime and older in wintertime, what might be due to its movements as Morning and Evening Star.<br />
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The '''Venus-cross''' is the heart of a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbird_%28mythology%29 thunderbird], who is painted on a sacred shield of the [https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sioux Sioux] '''(Fig. 44)'''. <br />
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It is also the sign of the Germanic goddess [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frigg Frigga], who is again representing '''Venus (Fig. 45)'''. <br />
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The four-pointed star is the sign for the Morning star with the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tewa Tewa Indians] in [[Riesenfunde - in Arizona|Arizona]]. In this picture he has eagle claws. Next to the star sits a spiraling snake. '''(Fig. 46)''' <br />
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A German stone sculpture from the late 7th Century, representing Christ on the Cross, shows a German [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Cross Iron Cross] / '''Venus''' above an hourgalss or sky / '''Venus''' sign. The marterial stone lines make up the hourglass, the isos ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis Isis])-celes(tial) cross / '''Venus'''. The immaterial form inbetween these lines again resembles the German - [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Cross Iron Cross] / [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_cross Maltese cross] - '''Venus. (Fig. 47)'''<br />
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Already Stephen (1940) realized that two hourglasses laid across each other, produce the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_cross Maltese cross], which is the sign for [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoatl Quetzalcoatl], too ([[The birth of Venus out of Orion - Literature|in Patterson 1992: 77]]). '''(Fig. 48)''' <br />
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The rhomb in the cross of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoatl Quetzalcoatl] resembles another Morning Star / '''Venus''' symbol of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyenne Cheyenne] '''(Fig. 49)''' <br />
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In the [http://books.google.de/books?id=cqAwNmeutzwC&pg=PA285&lpg=PA285&dq=Foolish+Dance+Cheyenne&source=bl&ots=-Lboj6IWMx&sig=f6g706MKPW1xCL1L1YHn0iAiKZM&hl=de&sa=X&ei=4iDHU9WDMs2O4gSXyYGACw&ved=0CCMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Foolish%20Dance%20Cheyenne&f=false Massaum Ceremony] the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyenne Cheyenne] use the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_cross Maltese cross] to represent the Morning Star / '''Venus''' ([[The birth of Venus out of Orion - Literature|Grind 1923/172: 280, 305, 318]]) '''(Fig. 50)'''. <br />
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The title of a small pamphlet of the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Tract_Society American Tract Society] reads: "''The Morning Star; or stories about the childhood of Jesus, I'm the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and Morning Star''" (New York 1855, Rev.22:16). <ref>Editorial remark: cp. [http://www.biblestudytools.com/web/revelation/22-16.html Revelation 22:16 (World English Bible)]</ref> In the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qumran_Scrolls Qumran Scrolls], which apparently represent documents of the "primary church", and cannot be separated from the early beginnings of Christianity, a star is of central importance and plays an outstanding role.<br />
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Also in the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qumran_Scrolls Dead Sea Scrolls] the symbol of a star is mentioned over and over again. In Numeri 24,17 it says: "''a star rises out of Jacob''". [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_bar_Kokhba Simon Bar Kochba], the leader of the second rebellion against the Romans between 132 and 135 A.D. called himself "''son of a star''". The fight against the "Kittim" (Romans) is described in methaphysical terms, as the fight between the "''sons of the light''" against the "''sons of the dark''". In the Qumran war scroll it is written, that the star will fight successfully, together with the poor or the just, against the invading enemies. In the '''Damascus Scripts''' it's said, "''the star, that is the explorer of the law ...''" The figur of the Messiah appears in the text exclusivly in the picture of a star. These people of the star called themselfes zealots, fanatics for the law. ([[The birth of Venus out of Orion - Literature|Baigent, Leigh: 1991: 181, 263]])<br />
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'''Motseyoef''' / ''Sweet Medicine'' or ''Falling Star'', brought the law also to the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyenne Cheyenne]. What we consider their mythology, the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyenne Cheyenne] consider their law. The core of the teachings. resembles some central Christian commandments, which find parallels in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism Buddhism], too. The people of the community of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qumran Qumran] '''(Fig. P)''' purified themselves through a "''meal of all gathered''", which has been compared to the last supper of the primary church. In every traditional [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyenne Cheyenne] meeting, a shared meal is of high importance, with the same purifying charakter. Before eating a blessed drink of water is shared, taken from the same cup. From everything eaten, a piece is given to Maheo first. Also ritual selfpurification through withdrawel into the wilderness finds an equivalent in the vision quest of the American Indian.<br />
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In [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qumran Qumran] the people are poor, they share what they have with those that are in need. '''Motseyoef''' prophecied to the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyenne Cheyenne], "''you will always be poor''". And that is their general condition today, but they still share the little they have. The Indian [http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1080979/giveaway Giveaway] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potlatch Potlach] are best examples for this attitude. '''Motseyoef''' told the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheyenne Cheyenne] to love another and respect life. This law being at the heart of every religion, it seems, the law of the heart (Lectures of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harald_Wohlrapp Prof. Harald Wohlrapp], Philosophy Department, University Hamburg, 1980) Prior to his departure from earth '''Motseyoef''' / '''Venus''' described the qualifications his successor should possess. "''Now you must select a good man; one who is good-natured and of good character in every way. These are certainly attributes of the cultural hero Jesus to whom the old [http://books.google.de/books?id=y8pPB3sCmMEC&printsec=frontcover&hl=de&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false Arrow Keeper Red Hat] often compared '''Motseyoef'''. It was very important to him "to let white people know about this''". One argument he used: "''also the Cathlics have no women in it''".<br />
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[[Bild:Rinconada Star Being.jpg|thumb|'''Fig. Q''' A miraculous ''star being'', Petroglyph National Monument, Albuquerque - probably another variant of the common Venus-motif in Amerind mythology]]<br />
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According to [[Michael Baigent|Baigent]] and '''Leigh''' the teachings of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle Paulus], on which Christianity was later based, were a severe deviation of the original or pure teachings, when "''women were still in it''". [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle Paulus] set God aside and put the worship of Jesus in his place. Jesus becoming the counterpart of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adonis Adonis], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammuz_%28deity%29 Tammuz], '''Allis''', [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal Baal], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris Osiris], or any other of those dieing and resurrected gods, who were so popular in the [[Ein atlantischer 'Außenposten' im Nahen Osten|Near East]] in those days. To overcome these rivals, Jesus had to perform even greater miracles then they did. And especially in this period of development many of the miracles happened, which Jesus supposedly performed. Basically they are inventions of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_the_Apostle Paulus] which contradict the pure teachings of Jacobus and the communities in Jerusalem and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qumran Qumran]. ([[The birth of Venus out of Orion - Literature|1991: 229-231]])<br />
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In [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylon Babylon] '''Venus''' was also portrayed as a sixpointed star on the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_David Shield of David], as a fivepointed star, or pentagram, on the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_of_Solomon Seal of Solomon], sometimes also as an isosceles cross. ([[The birth of Venus out of Orion - Literature|Velikovsky 1950/1978: 163]]) The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnostics Gnostics] called the fivepointed star, the flaming star. In [http://www.omniglot.com/writing/runic.htm runic characters] the sixpointed star represents the cosmos. As a hexagon it transforms into the, KA-Rune (Rune of Justice), which is attached to '''Venus''', as is the seven. ([[The birth of Venus out of Orion - Literature|Kosbab 1982: 43, 215-216]]) The sign for '''Venus''' in Northwest-Mesopotamia is the sevenpointed star, scratched into the sculpture of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabonidus Nabonid], the last [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Babylonian_Empire king of Babylon], about 522 BC. The people of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harran Harran], the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabians Sabians], were called star worshippers. ([[The birth of Venus out of Orion - Literature|Thames & Hudson, 1963:203]]) '''(Fig. 52)''' <br />
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A [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chumash_people Chumash] cave painting in [[Riesenfunde - in Kalifornien|California]], dated to about 900, shows a sevenpointed star with an isosceles '''Venus''' cross in the middle. They are both encirceled by a ring of flames. ([[The birth of Venus out of Orion - Literature|Wellmann 1976: 74-75]]) '''(Fig. 53)'''<br />
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In the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojave_Desert Mojave Desert], [[Riesenfunde - in Kalifornien|California]], in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemehuevi Chemehuevi] Indian territory, "''A dramatic discovery was a red radiating symbol with a 'tail', which may represent a comet. — The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawaiisu Kawaiisu], who in culture and language are closely related to the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemehuevi Chemehuevis], also believed in a Sky Coyote, sometimes referred to as 'White Coyote'. It was said that he may be seen going across the sky, and that the sight of him portends death and destruction.''" ([[The birth of Venus out of Orion - Literature|Patterson 1992: 65)]] '''(Fig. 54)''' <br />
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This comet is made up of two circles, from the outer one radiant rays extend. The comet tail is made up of three orbit lines. In a sign from [[Riesenfunde - in New Mexico|New Mexico]] '''(Fig. 55)''' the outer of the two circles is made up of 23 dots, the upper half counts 13, the half below only 10 dots.<br />
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These ten dots relate in meaning certainly to the ten feathers or rays which are decorating the ''Sky God'' from [http://atlantisforschung.de/images/Schukies-Venus-2.jpg figure 2], that whole configuration most likely representing the ''Lightning God'', '''Venus''', again. The second inner circle is marked with the cross of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoatl QuetzalcoatI] / '''Venus'''. According to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polly_Schaafsma Schaafsma] (1980) <ref>Editorial remark: see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polly_Schaafsma Schaafsma, Polly], "[http://books.google.de/books/about/Indian_Rock_Art_of_the_Southwest.html?id=LYFwNpeJdEYC&redir_esc=y Indian Rock Art of the Southwest]", School of American Research, Santa Fe. Albuquerque: University of New Mexico Press, 1980</ref> this sign might refer to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quetzalcoatl Quetzalcoatl].<br />
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An impressive [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroglyph petroglyph] from Sweden shows another variant of this comet '''Venus'''. '''(Fig. 56)''' The innermost circle is marked by a '''Venus-cross''', also the second inner ring shows a '''Venus cross'''. The comet-tail is made up of three lines as well, of which the middle one is marked by two horns at the end of the tail. This detail reminds of the many horned snake motives which are found almost everywhere. On the other end the same line seems to end in a small ball. But this ball might have come as well from the outer line which crosses the middle line in the center of the '''Venus-cross'''. In conventional interpretation this extremely complex symbol is interpreted as a phallus. ([[The birth of Venus out of Orion - Literature|Evers 1995: 72]])<br />
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Also the comparisons of other symbol-groups like snakes, dragons, water monsters, or anthropomorphs, they all lead to the same conclusion, the world obviously has only one cultural hero, '''Venus''', the Morning and Evening Star.<br />
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